2015:H6017 - CCW Bill

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2015:H6017 - CCW Bill

Postby newportri » Wed Apr 08, 2015 8:32 pm

House Bill No. 6017

BY Carnevale, Chippendale, Corvese, O'Brien, McKiernan

ENTITLED, AN ACT RELATING TO CRIMINAL OFFENSES - WEAPONS (Amends the application process for requesting a license or permit to carry a concealed weapon.)

{LC2245/1}

04/01/2015 Introduced, referred to House Judiciary

http://webserver.rilin.state.ri.us/BillText/BillText15/HouseText15/H6017.pdf
....the right to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
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Re: 2015:H6017 - CCW Bill

Postby Blast54 » Wed Apr 08, 2015 9:25 pm

Not sure how this is helpful.
I notice the "shall" issue, but it still calls for a "showing of need".
Also states the AG can restrict the permit.... restrictions can actually render the permit useless. Restricted for range use only, work use only, private property only...etc.

Who determines what a proper showing of need is? even though it is shall issue it gives the AG the same outs he has now...actually more because now it would be legal for him to restrict.
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Re: 2015:H6017 - CCW Bill

Postby YKCOR1313 » Wed Apr 08, 2015 10:24 pm

"(5) The renewal permit shall be, at a minimum, issued with the same restrictions, if any, as the prior permit, except that the renewal may be for a period of up to six (6) years"

Does the "minimum" mean that you can't be issued an unrestricted permit when you renew a restricted permit? I know people with restricted rental property permits. What happens if the sell they property? They may not have a need under these rules.
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Re: 2015:H6017 - CCW Bill

Postby newportri » Wed Apr 08, 2015 11:27 pm

Yepp, this is not really a good bill..
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Re: 2015:H6017 - CCW Bill

Postby mossberg500 » Thu Apr 09, 2015 12:46 am

Codify's restrictions, but still does not define them, which makes using a permit with restrictions even more of a risk.

YKCOR1313 wrote:"(5) The renewal permit shall be, at a minimum, issued with the same restrictions, if any, as the prior permit, except that the renewal [url]may[/url]be for a period of up to six (6) years"


New applications are SHALL issue (bust still have a burden of NEED), Renewals are MAY issue the way I am reading this.

This is poorly written!
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Re: 2015:H6017 - CCW Bill

Postby YKCOR1313 » Thu Apr 09, 2015 12:55 am

The only good thing about this bill is that it doesn't stand a chance of passing. Hopefully they come up with a bill that means something and doesn't violate everyone's rights.
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Re: 2015:H6017 - CCW Bill

Postby Blast54 » Thu Apr 09, 2015 1:19 am

I just don't understand why Chip is sponsor?
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Re: 2015:H6017 - CCW Bill

Postby newportri » Thu Apr 09, 2015 1:32 pm

This bill was written by the RI Second Amendment Coalition. They are having a meeting this coming Sunday I believe so anyone that would like to comment on the bill should attend.
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Re: 2015:H6017 - CCW Bill

Postby Blast54 » Thu Apr 09, 2015 2:27 pm

I am in South Carolina this week into next so will not be able to attend.
I have been in touch with Chip to express my concerns.
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Re: 2015:H6017 - CCW Bill

Postby RImike » Thu Apr 09, 2015 3:08 pm

I understand the intent of the bill to bring the AG permits inline with the town permits. However this bill adds quite ambiguous language to the permuting process such as restrictions. I would have much rather seen "if it appears that the applicant has good reason to fear an injury to his or her person or property or has any other proper reason for carrying a pistol or revolver" part of 11-47-11 be removed. In doing so, the arbitrary interpretation of "any other proper reason" would be removed which what the core issue focuses on.
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