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Re: bullets for reloading

Postby newportri » Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:48 pm

I went to Walmart over the weekend, and the had some 9mm, at $14.97/50 I believe. I don't remember what brand they were, but they were in a bright blue box. Probably sold out pretty quickly. There was no .22 and .223.

I looked into swaging .223 bullets a while ago, but there was really one manufacturer that makes a machine for hobbyist. You could use lead wirefrom the hardware store, but it is so expensive that it wasn't worth it. He (small familiy business I believe) was also selling lead wire, but it was also expensive.

I also looked into making jackets for .223, but the machine was expensive, and so was copper. You could use .22 cases, but there was a lot of problems with it and didn't seem to be worth the hassle.
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Re: bullets for reloading

Postby tk421991 » Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:23 am

I just want to elaborate on why I like the idea of bullet swaging, and why I'll be buying a swaging press from RCBS.

The guns I'm primarily reloading for will have .308 - 311, possibly .315 or even .318 bore diameters. M91/30 and Savage 110 .30-06. The Savage I'm not so worried about, because everyone and his brother has been reloading .30-06 since WW1. But the M91/30 poses a problem. I haven't slugged the bore yet, so theoretically it takes a .311" bullet. The stuff that's available in .311" is a hybrid of 7.7x58, .303, 7.62x54r, and 7.62x39. I've owned or shot all of those calibers, and I know for a fact that those bullets ain't interchangeable. Lee Enfields don't like Boat Tailed bullets, but my M91/30 loves them. I've looked around the selection of .311 bullets, and in comparison to .308 bullets, the pickings are slim. Graf & Sons has 21 options for .311 and 291 options for .308. Usually looking at a 150gr, 174gr, and 180gr for .311. I have seen some big 200 and 220gr roundnose bullets, but those are more expensive and are all sold out. Keep in mind that in all likelihood, my M91/30 won't have a .311" bore diameter. Its a 1943, POS rifle that has horrible machining everywhere, and I can tell its seen combat. Heavy combat. The buttplate isn't original (old serial number was struck out), there's severe wear on the end of the barrel where the bayonet is fixed, and you can just tell that its been used and abused. If I wanted to make a 7.62x54r varmint load or anything out of the ordinary, I'd have to make my own and I wouldn't shoot a bare lead cast bullet down the bore. I want it jacketed, and swaging is a good way to do that.

Another things is independence from market fluctuations. Hell, this thread is an example. I've read articles and threads about bullet shortages, but not copper wire or lead shortages. Also, I'd have the option to make stuff like ballistic tips, plastic tips, hollow points, and bi-metal bullets like Soviet-style mild steel core or .303-style aluminum tipped bullets.

Just saying why I'm going to get into bullet swaging, and maybe someone else will read this and learn about something new.
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Re: bullets for reloading

Postby Blast54 » Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:27 am

You might want to look into casting rifle bullets using gas checks.
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Re: bullets for reloading

Postby tk421991 » Tue Apr 30, 2013 3:11 am

Blast54 wrote:You might want to look into casting rifle bullets using gas checks.


I did some quick googling. Seems that gas checks are used for higher velocity loads, like magnum revolvers and obsolete military calibers, like 7.62x54r and .30-06.

Could someone here make me a box each of gas-checked cast 174gr and 200gr 7.62x54r? I want to shoot it before I get into it. $30 p/20?
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